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. >> mitt romney is trying to turn the momentum from his debate performance. >> polls show mitt romney got a bounce. >> new polls. >> into a political tidal wave on the campaign trail. >> mitt romney will say absolutely anything to get elected. >> at the debate he said he's not going to cut taxes for the wealthy. in the primary he said he's going to cut taxes for everyone. >> i'm going to lower rates across the board for all americans. isn't that a change? >> let me repeat what i said. >> lying, denying and alibiing. >> is that leadership? >> we can't debate the debate. >> the war continues. >> let's move on. >> we are awaiting a major foreign policy address. >> romney boiled down the president's foreign policy to one of hope. >> hope is not a strategy. >> but on actual foreign policy romney's specifics were rather thin. >> i'll support the libyan's people efforts to support a lasting government. >> how about iran? >> prevent them from acquiring nuclear weapons capability. >> that's the same. >> this is the same guy who couldn't even go to the olympics. >> he will say anything, he will
. >> mitt romney is trying to turn the momentum from his debate performance. >> polls show mitt romney got a bounce. >> new polls. >> into a political tidal wave on the campaign trail. >> mitt romney will say absolutely anything to get elected. >> at the debate he said he's not going to cut taxes for the wealthy. in the primary he said he's going to cut taxes for everyone. >> i'm going to lower rates across the board for all americans. isn't that a...
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. >> a brand-new poll shows governor romney with a 2-point edge over president obama. >> the day after the debate, the ground swell of romney winning was bigger and bigger. i think that will widen. >> obama's been on defense and he is going down in the polls. >> we have polling data now that shows romney ahead, wherever he is ahead, i think hebe he has been ahead for months or weeks. i don't think it happened overnight. they're all saying rom no is surging. >> he was on the stage with the president of the united states. he looked like he was in command. he was in charge of the entire discussion. i think that's the reason the polls are tightening right now. >> i told you three months ago, two months ago and one month ago, if the election were held on taday twould be a landslide romney itch the faces are the facts. we just saw them come to light in the last debate. with no outside b.s., no biased media, no interruptions or negative political ads, and no damn teleprompters. >> the debate is not just... shifting the polls. the debate is creating momentum. >> this business of just going out
. >> a brand-new poll shows governor romney with a 2-point edge over president obama. >> the day after the debate, the ground swell of romney winning was bigger and bigger. i think that will widen. >> obama's been on defense and he is going down in the polls. >> we have polling data now that shows romney ahead, wherever he is ahead, i think hebe he has been ahead for months or weeks. i don't think it happened overnight. they're all saying rom no is surging. >> he...
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the latest poll showing mitt romney pulling ahead of president obam a. governor romney leading 49% to 47% among likely voters. brit hume is here. nice to see you. there is a lot of enthusiasm by the people in the sound bite. but if you look at democrats, they concede that the momentum is definitely in governor romney's favor. what can -- in president obama -- governor romney's favor. what can president obama do? >> i think he would be wise not to panic because these polls, if you look at the gallup poll is sampled two way, registered voters and president obamma was a ahead. had they asked the questions that they asked to determine who is likely voter and broke out that set of voters, that indicated they were likely voters, you have mitt romney ahead by two percentage points, that's well inside the margin of error. so it could be the other way. so basically, what this is sell tells us is that the race remains exceedingly close, while the debate performance, that even many democrats acknowledge was a win for governor romney and has given him momentum here,
the latest poll showing mitt romney pulling ahead of president obam a. governor romney leading 49% to 47% among likely voters. brit hume is here. nice to see you. there is a lot of enthusiasm by the people in the sound bite. but if you look at democrats, they concede that the momentum is definitely in governor romney's favor. what can -- in president obama -- governor romney's favor. what can president obama do? >> i think he would be wise not to panic because these polls, if you look at...
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romney was getting hammered in the polls. keeping them honest though, disputing or downplaying the obvious, that's what campaigns do on both sides. >> it's not going to be about the polls. >> i wouldn't put a lot of weight in any of these national polls for the next couple days. >> in terms of mitt romney surging, just remember how much of a deficit he had to make up. he was in some cases double digits behind the president in all those attributes. >> pull back the reins. >> the media is focusing on one poll. >> that's reaction to the recent batch of polling, including that devastating pew poll that showed a four point romney lead. now consider that pew took an earlier poll in september a couple weeks before the debate, it was the republicans going ballistic when it showed romney eight points down. watch. >> these polls are basically just part and parcel of the campaign for barack obama to help him stay in this game as long as possible. >> if you believe what the polls are saying right now, you've got to believe that there's s
romney was getting hammered in the polls. keeping them honest though, disputing or downplaying the obvious, that's what campaigns do on both sides. >> it's not going to be about the polls. >> i wouldn't put a lot of weight in any of these national polls for the next couple days. >> in terms of mitt romney surging, just remember how much of a deficit he had to make up. he was in some cases double digits behind the president in all those attributes. >> pull back the reins....
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and one poll had romney ahead by one. since the debate there, have been three polls. obama ahead by one and fourer, and romney ahead by one. it's a real clear politics average of 0.8 tenths. looks like movement there. look, it's hard to move only in individual states. the individual states mimic to a lesser or greater extent what's happening nationwide. if you look at that, in the real clear politics average before the debates, it was obama leading by 3.1%. after the debates, as of this afternoon, it's romney leading by a point. that's a swing of 4.1%. and leading 48. that bounce will grow a little bit more as we get polls here in the next couple of days. i would not be surprised to see it grow to five points. >> bill: nevada and colorado are two states that mitt romney could win, correct? >> yeah. correct. we've got some polling in colorado. before happened there were four polls. obama won two of them. by three and four points. romney won two by three and four points. since then, we had two polls. the real clear politics average is now swung colorado into romney's co
and one poll had romney ahead by one. since the debate there, have been three polls. obama ahead by one and fourer, and romney ahead by one. it's a real clear politics average of 0.8 tenths. looks like movement there. look, it's hard to move only in individual states. the individual states mimic to a lesser or greater extent what's happening nationwide. if you look at that, in the real clear politics average before the debates, it was obama leading by 3.1%. after the debates, as of this...
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the gallup poll, for instance, has romney doing five points better. other polls have that a little smaller. so it seems like obama would even today win an election if everyone registered to vote turned out or certainly all adults. but based on the republican enthusiasm advantage and some democrats, i think, feeling a little disupon dent after the president's performance in denver last week, that alone might be enough to push romney over the top. >> the special way that you sort of distill the candidate's chances at 538, your now cast factors in not just polling but also economic data and other measures that you think give you a percentage chance that one of the two candidates will win the election. what's the percentage chance you have for each of the candidates and has that changed less than the national polls changed? >> the percentage is a 70/30 advantage for obama. which, by the way, if you go to vegas or offshore versions of vegas, you can bet at about those odds. obama is a 70% favorite. but my site had obama as an 85% favorite before the debate
the gallup poll, for instance, has romney doing five points better. other polls have that a little smaller. so it seems like obama would even today win an election if everyone registered to vote turned out or certainly all adults. but based on the republican enthusiasm advantage and some democrats, i think, feeling a little disupon dent after the president's performance in denver last week, that alone might be enough to push romney over the top. >> the special way that you sort of distill...
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let's talk about the pew poll and that romney lead. could you break down those numbers. >> that's a huge lead. if that number is correct, you know, it seems to be a little bit of an outlier. we don't have a lot of information. all the polls that have been released since the debate, state polls, national polls and the average for romney is he's increased his performance by about four to five points. that's a big deal. since the convention, obama seemed to have a lead of about four points. now it's gone back to the pre-convention period where it was tied or obama had a one to two-point lead in all the polls. the best thing to do is to wait for the by the end of the week we'll have more national poll. we'll see what's showing up in the swing state. it does seem just like obama got a big bump out of his convention, mitt romney has a significant bump out of his first debate performance. >> we need to look at overall trends. overall trends clearly moving towards romney including in key voting groups. women voters, if you look at pew a month
let's talk about the pew poll and that romney lead. could you break down those numbers. >> that's a huge lead. if that number is correct, you know, it seems to be a little bit of an outlier. we don't have a lot of information. all the polls that have been released since the debate, state polls, national polls and the average for romney is he's increased his performance by about four to five points. that's a big deal. since the convention, obama seemed to have a lead of about four points....
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since the debate, there have been two polls, romney has been leading b three and t atesngms ramos romney. virginia, same thing. obama up by 2 in two different polls before the debate. after the debate, obama up by 3 in one pl, but romney up by one an three in another poll. north carolin that ste h tin t ry f ms, e r c tighoofore the debate, romney lead of eight tenths of a percent. there has been one poll in north carolina after the debate and it had a romney margin of nine. the obama campaign is spending money in the state, but they've tesiuyy0%mreamount the th're ramping up in every other battle ground state. they can't pull out without if being a news story. >> bill: that's the big indicator, where they allot their television money and north carolina, they prettyuch think bueyll,man w leomngvi idd vni correct? >> correct. and both sides are spending an enormous amount money in two very expensive states and in virginia, for example, if you own a tv station in washington, d.c. market, hiorically you gut?foir r. much in the w of onot sides. >> bill: ohio obviously a vital swing state. ha
since the debate, there have been two polls, romney has been leading b three and t atesngms ramos romney. virginia, same thing. obama up by 2 in two different polls before the debate. after the debate, obama up by 3 in one pl, but romney up by one an three in another poll. north carolin that ste h tin t ry f ms, e r c tighoofore the debate, romney lead of eight tenths of a percent. there has been one poll in north carolina after the debate and it had a romney margin of nine. the obama campaign...
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governor romney has taken a slight overall lead in national polls and the president seems to be criticized almost as vigorously by his friends is by governor romney. now we learn the defense secretary leon panetta has sent our troops to georgia. to make a clear statement of support to our jordanian allies and an unmistakable signal to turkey and iran to take some care and some caution. my guest tonight is no stranger to foreign policy. the white house is running from the political fallout and a crumbling middle east. joining us now is k.t. mcfarland. it is great to have you with us. let's start with the testimony before the house oversight committee,. >> what happens in an election year is that the policy misfires. the administration from the white house, wants to get as far away from the president as he can. so he has no idea who did what, when did they do it, who said what. eventually the dust settled and then what happens is the administration has to blame everybody. lou: it's inconceivable that the president of the united states three weeks into this tragedy is talking about an interne
governor romney has taken a slight overall lead in national polls and the president seems to be criticized almost as vigorously by his friends is by governor romney. now we learn the defense secretary leon panetta has sent our troops to georgia. to make a clear statement of support to our jordanian allies and an unmistakable signal to turkey and iran to take some care and some caution. my guest tonight is no stranger to foreign policy. the white house is running from the political fallout and a...
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has effectively closed the gender gap according to one poll. romney stands even with the president among female voters in the latest pugh survey. should romney end up getting more of the female vote than the president does in the general, he'd be the first republican to do that in 24 years. want to sound smart today, tell your friends the last republican presidential candidate to win the female vote, george h.w. bush. they favored him over michael dukakis by a single percentage point that day. the number of female voters xeeted every male voter in every presidential election since 1964. >>> all right, let's huddle up around the water cooler to take a crack at the conspiracy theories that were around after the release of the jobs report. >> folks, this .3% drop in the unemployment rate seems just a little too barely better to be true. >> maybe it's a coincidence. the month before the election we have a number that comes out .1 below when the president took office. >> i'm going to go with jack welch on this one. >> how convenient that the rate dr
has effectively closed the gender gap according to one poll. romney stands even with the president among female voters in the latest pugh survey. should romney end up getting more of the female vote than the president does in the general, he'd be the first republican to do that in 24 years. want to sound smart today, tell your friends the last republican presidential candidate to win the female vote, george h.w. bush. they favored him over michael dukakis by a single percentage point that day....
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what started as a slow trickle in polls, heading romney's way turned in to quite something else tonight. while it's not a full gusher of strong poll numbers yet for the republican nominee. things are moving his direction. across the country. mitt romney now has take an two-point lead over the president in the latest gallup poll of likely voters. 49% to 47%. for the first time since last october, romney leads in the real clear politic average of polls, the national average. the numbers 48 to 47.3. we have fox team coverage of the race for the presidency. chief white house correspondent ed henry is traveling with the president in columbus, ohio. chief political correspondent carl cameron is with the romney campaign. across the way in cuyahoga falls. >> reporter: mr. romney stormed in the buckeye state. for the first time since the democratic convention in early september, he is either tied, in some cases now leading in the polls. surging in both national and battle ground state polls the latest american research group poll shows romney ahead in colorado 50 to 46. ohio, romney at 48. to pr
what started as a slow trickle in polls, heading romney's way turned in to quite something else tonight. while it's not a full gusher of strong poll numbers yet for the republican nominee. things are moving his direction. across the country. mitt romney now has take an two-point lead over the president in the latest gallup poll of likely voters. 49% to 47%. for the first time since last october, romney leads in the real clear politic average of polls, the national average. the numbers 48 to...
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stay it's a lock for romney. >> bob: i suggest he go back to polling school. i know this guy, he is a decent pollster. but to suggest that you wri off three states. fla,ba gngcla make nse. no way you can call virginia. obama is ahead in virginia. 60% of the vote in virginia. allemocratic. i don't believe it for a imy:y. that'sht ioupi. k ortiti. tomorrow fox has coverage of the vice presidential debate. i'm going to kentucky for kentucky fried chicken and give you a preview in person of the fantastic debate. >> greg: where are you ayin >> kberl yig ofrios prominent -- [ inaudible ] their critique next on "the five." i don't want you to get in the hotel room and jump in the bathtub. ♪ ♪ mike rowe here at a ford dealer wh a little q&a for fiona. te me ona, w'sing a g e? urd er mike rowe here at a ford dealer wh a little q&a for fiona. o 11ornd te me ona, w'sing a g sem? fde. who's offering a rebate? your ford dealer. who has the low price tire guarantee... affording peace of mind to anyone who might be in the market for a new set of res? your ford dealer. i'
stay it's a lock for romney. >> bob: i suggest he go back to polling school. i know this guy, he is a decent pollster. but to suggest that you wri off three states. fla,ba gngcla make nse. no way you can call virginia. obama is ahead in virginia. 60% of the vote in virginia. allemocratic. i don't believe it for a imy:y. that'sht ioupi. k ortiti. tomorrow fox has coverage of the vice presidential debate. i'm going to kentucky for kentucky fried chicken and give you a preview in person of...
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but the poll ao shows the governor's approval rating jumping four points. he now tops the president by one point there. anthis oowhthe de i danville, kentucky. congressman paul ryan arriving late today in the bluegrass state ask said he's looking forward to his prime time faceoff. >> what i'm excited about is we get to off the american people jodes onsge heeees big stages. it's my first time. but what he can't run is president obama's indefensible record. they're offering a more of the same. >> bill: tonight the obama team is asking this, quoting now, whether congressman ryan will stand by t eme pio a gno ry h o e' dishonestly try to hide his positions by telling voters the exact opposite of what he and mitt romney have run on just like romney did last week. carl cameron is traveling wh the governor. he just wrapped autopsy ral in . engyo hod omp, carl? >> yesterday when we were in ohio, governor romney was asked by one register to talk about his abortion position and he said he didn't know of any legislation that might come up that would affecisge cdtalaom
but the poll ao shows the governor's approval rating jumping four points. he now tops the president by one point there. anthis oowhthe de i danville, kentucky. congressman paul ryan arriving late today in the bluegrass state ask said he's looking forward to his prime time faceoff. >> what i'm excited about is we get to off the american people jodes onsge heeees big stages. it's my first time. but what he can't run is president obama's indefensible record. they're offering a more of the...
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he's 49 and obama 47 in the polls. in ohio, 48/47, romney. a new cnn poll has obama ahead. all those polls within the margin of error is close. romney's family reportedly won a fight with campaign handlers leading to a candidate telling more personal stories this week. tuesday night he spoke of inadvertently crashing a party and meeting a former navy seal. >> i just learned a few days ago that he was one of the two former navy seals killed in ben ghazi and it broke my heart. >> we've got some work to do. we've got an election to win. >> reporter: the president was also in ohio, his 17th rally there, touting new jobs numbers. >> this past friday we found out the employment rate had fallen from 10% to -- the lowest number since i took office. >> reporter: the disappointment, bill clinton said, to republicans who fought jobs plans. >> you've got to feel some sympathy with them because they worked so hard to keep unemployment above 8% and they got above two months of getting the job done. it almost makes you want to cry for the disappointment that they face. it really broke the
he's 49 and obama 47 in the polls. in ohio, 48/47, romney. a new cnn poll has obama ahead. all those polls within the margin of error is close. romney's family reportedly won a fight with campaign handlers leading to a candidate telling more personal stories this week. tuesday night he spoke of inadvertently crashing a party and meeting a former navy seal. >> i just learned a few days ago that he was one of the two former navy seals killed in ben ghazi and it broke my heart. >>...
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with the polls tied nationally, romney's popularity is surging. the george washington university poll puts romney in positive territory for the first time. 54% favorable,44rs unverifiable. tomorrow's debate will show each candidates' ability to connect with voters. both sides agreed in advance that the audience would drive the discussion. moderatomoderator candy crowleyn said she will ask follo follow p questions and insert herself in the debate. insiders say time will tell. joe biden was scheduled to stomach in nevada today but -- to stump in nevada today but will take part in funeral services for arlen specter who died over the weekend. romney is shown up five points with significant gains among women. the romney campaign and the republican party today reported having raised $170 million in the month of september. that compares to $181 million for the obama cap pain an campae democrats. watch the ad blitz accelerate in the next three weeks. >> we'll see you tomorrow, carl. >> bret: wall street starts the week on a positive note. the do you gaine
with the polls tied nationally, romney's popularity is surging. the george washington university poll puts romney in positive territory for the first time. 54% favorable,44rs unverifiable. tomorrow's debate will show each candidates' ability to connect with voters. both sides agreed in advance that the audience would drive the discussion. moderatomoderator candy crowleyn said she will ask follo follow p questions and insert herself in the debate. insiders say time will tell. joe biden was...
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in colorado, in one right-leaning poll romney is now up by 3 points. the same showed him losing by 5 before the debate. now he's up by 3. in virginia, the president is ahead by 3 in virginia. that same poll had the president's lead at 5 points before the debate. that shows the president's lead shrinking. in michigan, it's now barack obama by just 3 points. the president had led by 10 last month. now it's down to 3. in ohio today, a poll on the right gives the president an edge of 2 points. that poll in iowa shows a gain for mr. obama, a 5-point gain. in florida, the same poll shows a 4-point swing for romney. he's up by 2 points. so the major fall or minor lift, however, you rattle the number lose, as the overall national polling shifts and the swing state races shift with them, the state where the romney campaign is hoping for the biggest shift of all is in ohio. in modern political history, ohio has been the path to the presidency for republican candidates. if republican candidates win ohio, they win the white house. if mitt romney doesn't win ohio,
in colorado, in one right-leaning poll romney is now up by 3 points. the same showed him losing by 5 before the debate. now he's up by 3. in virginia, the president is ahead by 3 in virginia. that same poll had the president's lead at 5 points before the debate. that shows the president's lead shrinking. in michigan, it's now barack obama by just 3 points. the president had led by 10 last month. now it's down to 3. in ohio today, a poll on the right gives the president an edge of 2 points. that...
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a gallup poll out today has romney at 49%, president obama 47%. that is within the poll's margin of error so it is still essentially a tie. the two campaigns tangled today over the definition of one of the shortest words in the english language. the question is whether vice president biden misled the american people in the debate last night and whether he had misused the word "we." biden was responding to charges that the state department turned down requests for more security in libya before the terror attack last month that killed the u.s. ambassador and three other americans. here's what the vice president said. >> well, we weren't told they wanted more security. we did not know they wanted more security again. and, by the way, at the time we were told exactly -- we said exactly what the intelligence community told us that they knew. that was the assessment. >> pelley: the fight today was over what he meant by "we." our campaign 2012 correspondents on r on the story and we'll go first to jan crawford who gotten a earful from the romney campaign
a gallup poll out today has romney at 49%, president obama 47%. that is within the poll's margin of error so it is still essentially a tie. the two campaigns tangled today over the definition of one of the shortest words in the english language. the question is whether vice president biden misled the american people in the debate last night and whether he had misused the word "we." biden was responding to charges that the state department turned down requests for more security in...
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there's also rasmussen poll that has romney three hey, 47-44. >> a lot of these polls where you see the president with, like, a five- or six-point lead, you go into the internals and you see they've been over-sampling democrats by, like, nine, or even, 10 or even 13 points. >> actually, greg, there was a brand new national bloomberg poll released today showing governor romney leading president obama on the issue of terrorism by six point. >> jon: how the hell are these polls so divergent, useless, accurate, yet quotable? i think we all know what we need? nerds! >> when you see obamaing gaining in today's poll, that means obama's interviews yesterday were better than seven days ago conducted before the debate. he went from three ahead in the seven-day track yesterday to five ahead in the track today. the next round of swing state polls shows the swing states tied, then democrats really will-- it will be appropriate for them to panic. ( laughter ) ( applause ) >> jon: nobody understands these things but those guys. and they're not telling us anything. is there anything that can help us ge
there's also rasmussen poll that has romney three hey, 47-44. >> a lot of these polls where you see the president with, like, a five- or six-point lead, you go into the internals and you see they've been over-sampling democrats by, like, nine, or even, 10 or even 13 points. >> actually, greg, there was a brand new national bloomberg poll released today showing governor romney leading president obama on the issue of terrorism by six point. >> jon: how the hell are these polls...
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you know that by exit polling? >> no. you can tell it by the registration of the people who have requested absentee ballots. >> bill: they're more democrats than republicans have requested early voting. >> by a wide margin. and in ohio, it's the opposite. not the opposite, but it's less of an advantage for the democrats than it was in 2008 where barak obama built a huge lead in ohio in the early voting in 2009 over john mccain. >> bill: he hasn't done it this time. >> it's not happening. no, it hasn't. and the margin is very low and that's potentially a problem because we've got another week to go. >> bill: the problem for whom? >> problem for barak obama. >> bill: when you say it is potentially a proximate it looks like you may be rooting for the president. i know you're not. that's why we have you on the air. we know do you a fair job. let's go to the widely watched brown-warren race, which has the latest polling as brown up by 3. but then in another poll has warren up. who is going to weapon? >> too close to call. in o
you know that by exit polling? >> no. you can tell it by the registration of the people who have requested absentee ballots. >> bill: they're more democrats than republicans have requested early voting. >> by a wide margin. and in ohio, it's the opposite. not the opposite, but it's less of an advantage for the democrats than it was in 2008 where barak obama built a huge lead in ohio in the early voting in 2009 over john mccain. >> bill: he hasn't done it this time....
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what do we expect from the obama/mitt romney rematch . the look at romney poll's surge. will the liar, liar strategy work? and congratulational hearing on libya shed new light on what happened in the attack on benghazi and raise new questions about the administration's response. welcome to the journal editorial report. i am paul gigot. all eyes were on the vice-presidential district attorney bait. the two spared over everything from iran and medicare reform and middle class taxes. >> the middle class got knocked on their heels and the great recession crushed them and they need help now. the last people who need help is 120,000 families for another 500 billion dollar tax cut over the next 10 years. >> there are not enough rich people and small businesses to tax to pay for the pending. next time you hear them say don't worry about. we'll get the wealthy people to pay their fair share watch out, the tax bill is coming to you. >> with us is dan, and collumist bill, and jason riley and washington columist kim strassel. >> he was doing what he was asked to do which is to energ
what do we expect from the obama/mitt romney rematch . the look at romney poll's surge. will the liar, liar strategy work? and congratulational hearing on libya shed new light on what happened in the attack on benghazi and raise new questions about the administration's response. welcome to the journal editorial report. i am paul gigot. all eyes were on the vice-presidential district attorney bait. the two spared over everything from iran and medicare reform and middle class taxes. >> the...
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the latest polling shows mixed results. the pew poll has romney up by four. gallup's daily tracking has the president up by five. what does that mean? >> yeah, first of all, you know, you always take one poll in isolation or even two can be problematic. the best thing always on these is to look there's a few sites that do polling averages, real clear politics, "huffington post," they average all the different polls and put them together. if you want to look at these two right now, they might kind of both be true and it's because of this. the gallup one measures seven days. it's still got a number of predebate days there when oen was ahead. it's got the immediate post debate when romney seems to have pulled even or taken the lead in the two or three days immediately after. >> immediately after. >> what gallup also showed apparently in the last day that's included in the seven days, there was ho movement back towards obama. there was an end to the movement toward romney. so that's why he went from three ahead in the seven-day track yesterday to five ahead in th
the latest polling shows mixed results. the pew poll has romney up by four. gallup's daily tracking has the president up by five. what does that mean? >> yeah, first of all, you know, you always take one poll in isolation or even two can be problematic. the best thing always on these is to look there's a few sites that do polling averages, real clear politics, "huffington post," they average all the different polls and put them together. if you want to look at these two right...